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Ghostly Apparition
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Ghostly Joins RLF? Reply with quote

Or how he embraced his inner rodent.

Come over to the dark side...The refrain often heard from Mad gerbil/Bergil and others. For a long time I've resisted the entreaties, but times have changed. Let me start from the beginning...

Where we live my landlord won't allow cats. My wife loves cats, she wanted a pet, so we tried parakeets. while they are entertaining, you can't really pet them or do much except watch them, so.. She says to me, "why not get a small animal like a rat, gerbil or hamster or mouse?" Well, after much time with everytime we go to the pet store to get bird supplies ending up looking at small rodents,we finally, today decided to get a couple of mice.
We couldn't find a Gerbil anywhere (go figure), Maybe MG has liberated them all? Anyway, we have 2 small young female mice, one brown and one white. Cute little gals I must admit. Guess what she decides to name them?

Thelma and Louise. No joke. I'm more than a little worried about the choice of names but I'll keep my wits about me and hope all is well.
The critter cages and such have come a long way from the little wire cages with a single wheel in them, that I remember. Tubes comeing out and going god only knows where or why.

http://www.arcatapet.com/item.cfm?cat=8988

This is the one we got. Wheel is up on top.
Anyway, wish me luck on my journey to embrace my inner rodent.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mice are delightful - but they have a powerful odor that you might regret real soon. Gerbils and hamsters do not produce anywhere near the odor that mice do -- my daughter has a mouse and I cannot wait until the thing expires. If you are keeping them someplace where the odor is no problem, you'll enjoy them.

Feed mice carefully, they over eat.
Gerbils don't over eat.
Hamsters hoard and don't over eat either.

Gerbils like to have pals.
Hamsters like to be alone.

A more convenient cage to clean would be a 10-20 gallon fish tank. Buy a cracked one on the cheap and affix a wire top to it. If you use pine bedding the clean up of the cage is as simple as removing the mice, dumping the tank into the garbage and putting in more bedding. I used to do the habitral thing like you've got there but they can be a bummer to get clean.

Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Gerbil wrote:
Mice are delightful - but they have a powerful odor that you might regret real soon. Gerbils and hamsters do not produce anywhere near the odor that mice do -- my daughter has a mouse and I cannot wait until the thing expires. If you are keeping them someplace where the odor is no problem, you'll enjoy them.

Feed mice carefully, they over eat.
Gerbils don't over eat.
Hamsters hoard and don't over eat either.

Gerbils like to have pals.
Hamsters like to be alone.

A more convenient cage to clean would be a 10-20 gallon fish tank. Buy a cracked one on the cheap and affix a wire top to it. If you use pine bedding the clean up of the cage is as simple as removing the mice, dumping the tank into the garbage and putting in more bedding. I used to do the habitral thing like you've got there but they can be a bummer to get clean.

Enjoy.


Where the hell are the gerbils? Thats what we really wanted but you've obviously liberated them. Bring back the gerbils.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerb's advice is all good, but he left out some info.

Mice are social and need friends as well. If you have two, that's just fine. I never noticed the smell being all that bad when I had mice, but if it gets to you and you don't mind the cost, cedar bedding instead of pine will help with odor control.

Hamsters are fairly foul-tempered and prone to biting. Really not good pets for kids or for handling.

Last time I checked the price of 10 gallon aquariums, they were still single digit. You can get a cracked one, but a new one isn't going to be much more. And they're INFINITELY easier to keep clean. Do get a secure lid, though, rodents are amazing escape artists. They'll find a way to the top of the cage no matter what, and if it's not on tightly....

Guinea pigs make really good pets, too. They're very friendly, and despite being much larger than mice, hamsters, gerbils and rats, they don't need much more space. They're also not very smelly. Some of them sqeak up a storm (they all can squeak quite loudly, but it's a matter of individual temperament whether or not they do so constantly), so be forewarned about that.

I had a friend who named her first two mice Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. She also refused to actually assign either name to either mouse - the two of them were just "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern".
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about Cedar bedding, LR.
I've read that it is hard on the little guys.

Pine isn't even ideal - if you want to save $$$ find a local lumber yard and get bags of sawdust for free.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Gerbil wrote:
I don't know about Cedar bedding, LR.
I've read that it is hard on the little guys.

Pine isn't even ideal - if you want to save $$$ find a local lumber yard and get bags of sawdust for free.


Really? I wasn't aware cedar was supposed to be hard on them. I can see it, though, it's not as soft as pine.

Maybe cedar sawdust, then?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaughingRat wrote:
Mad_Gerbil wrote:
I don't know about Cedar bedding, LR.
I've read that it is hard on the little guys.

Pine isn't even ideal - if you want to save $$$ find a local lumber yard and get bags of sawdust for free.


Really? I wasn't aware cedar was supposed to be hard on them. I can see it, though, it's not as soft as pine.

Maybe cedar sawdust, then?


No, not from a particle size perspective, but from a chemical perspective. The cedar oils are discomforting - I guess for gerbils it can cause a loss of hair about the nose. Cedar is very over powering - I sure wouldn't want to live in it. Pine is similar, but not quite as bad.

That is what I've read in 'gerbil care' books - how accurate that is I do not know.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx for all the info. Mice don't smell bad yet. Maybe they've been deoderized.
MG , you still haven't answered my question about what you've done with all the gerbils. Went to 3 different petstores, no gerbils anywhere.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghostly Apparition wrote:
Thx for all the info. Mice don't smell bad yet. Maybe they've been deoderized.
MG , you still haven't answered my question about what you've done with all the gerbils. Went to 3 different petstores, no gerbils anywhere.


They are a popular pet and sell out quickly.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghostly Apparition wrote:
Thx for all the info. Mice don't smell bad yet. Maybe they've been deoderized.


Are they female? Not to sound sexist or anything, but female mice don't smell as much as male ones do.

Mad_Gerbil wrote:
They are a popular pet and sell out quickly.
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Yeah, we noticed that with you, after all. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaughingRat wrote:

Yeah, we noticed that with you, after all. Razz


Awww...I was just starting to like you again.

*MadGerbil updates his 'enemies list'*

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Gerbil wrote:
Ghostly Apparition wrote:
Thx for all the info. Mice don't smell bad yet. Maybe they've been deoderized.
MG , you still haven't answered my question about what you've done with all the gerbils. Went to 3 different petstores, no gerbils anywhere.


They are a popular pet and sell out quickly.
Very Happy


Not the reason as LR so aptly stated. Turns out they are not allowed to sell Gerbils in the state of California. Banned animals list, along with Ferretts and woodchucks and flying squirrels..

This seems weird, why would they ban gerbils? ...*glares at MG*


Mice are indeed female.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the reason gerbils were banned from california was because they'd take over the desert and destroy the native species or something. That's how we ended up with a gerbil in 2nd grade. Its owner was moving to California and left it with our class to take care of.

Although thinking back, it might've been a guinea pig...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuzzy Bunny wrote:
I think the reason gerbils were banned from california was because they'd take over the desert and destroy the native species or something. That's how we ended up with a gerbil in 2nd grade. Its owner was moving to California and left it with our class to take care of.

Although thinking back, it might've been a guinea pig...


Big difference between a guinea pig and a gerbil, Guinea pigs are much larger.
Funny thing though, they still sell gerbil supllies and gerbil books at the pet stores. Seems you can own Gerbils, if you know someone that has them and can get them that way. Its just that pet stores aren't allowed to sell them.
Yes, I think it must have something to do with the fact Gerbils are desert rodents and they are probably afraid people might let them go and they would disturb the native desert habitat in some way.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghostly Apparition wrote:
Not the reason as LR so aptly stated. Turns out they are not allowed to sell Gerbils in the state of California. Banned animals list, along with Ferretts and woodchucks and flying squirrels..


You know, now that you mention that, I remember hearing that. Such a goofy state, California....

Ghostly Apparition wrote:
This seems weird, why would they ban gerbils? ...*glares at MG*


Kinda answered your own question there, didn't you?

Ghostly Apparition wrote:
Mice are indeed female.


Yep, they'll be less smelly. Although I didn't have much trouble with smell, even BREEDING mice. I ran 2 or three harem tanks (1 male, 2-3 females) and one holding tank (for the matured young, before they got taken off to the pet stores I had deals with). Pine shavings and regular cleaning is all it took.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: Now we have a cute little hamster. Its a dwarf variety.
Its called A winter white( siberian hamster I believe), and contrary to popular belief she is friendly, doesn't bite, and is cute as can be. Wife named her pickles. But it does seem hamsters are best kept alone, they would fight otherwise. She is pudgy and doesn't seem to like the exercise wheel, so we got her one of the little ball things you can put them in. Now she's mobile and all over the house. Great invention those balls.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just found out that Alberta, Canada has a 100% rat-free policy, up to and including it being illegal to keep them as pets.
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