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No way, man. I'm on the Atkin's diet. You must be kidding. That diet is very harmful - it is the opposite of what your body needs. :D

While I hate taking the hook, the line, the sinker, and about half the boat I'm actually relieved.

While I hate taking the hook, the line, the sinker, and about half the boat I'm actually relieved. Although, honestly, the medical profession is still out on the verdict on this one. Many people on it are getting very good results. However, the Atkin's Diet isn't approved for diabetics by the ADA.

While I hate taking the hook, the line, the sinker, and about half the boat I'm actually relieved. Although, honestly, the medical profession is still out on the verdict on this one. Many people on it are getting very good results. However, the Atkin's Diet isn't approved for diabetics by the ADA. You're diabetic? YOU, calling me a dork is really quite funny. Takes one to know one eh?

You're diabetic? YOU, calling me a dork is really quite funny. Takes one to know one eh? I am now. Found out late last year. TWO FREAKIN' DAYS before Thanksgiving, even. Of course, I hadn't been through the education class by Thanksgiving, so I didn't know I shouldn't have the chocolate bread pudding with whiskey sauce. Yeah, I'm sticking to that story. And *I* didn't call you a dork. I'm just a mod, I can't make or name forums. Someone else had to name that forum that way.

I am now. Found out late last year. TWO FREAKIN' DAYS before Thanksgiving, even. Of course, I hadn't been through the education class by Thanksgiving, so I didn't know I shouldn't have the chocolate bread pudding with whiskey sauce. Yeah, I'm sticking to that story. And *I* didn't call you a dork. I'm just a mod, I can't make or name forums. Someone else had to name that forum that way. Nice to know I have a forum named after me. LOL Since you're a newbie regarding diabetes I advise taking it seriously. Although an occasional treat at a holiday is probably okay. My wife has had diabetes for about 10 years now. But for the longest time never took it seriously. Took meds when she thought of it , that sort of thing. Last year, she got a foot infection that refused to go away for 5 months, plus did enough damage too her eyes that she no longer can drive at night. At one point her sugar was up to over 400. The doctor said he wondered how come she didn't have a heart attack or kidney damage. She is a type 2 diabetic but pills no longer work for her so she is on insulin now. twice a day. You can learn to live with diabetes, but ignoring it for any length of time can result in infections leading to amputation, blindness, heart attack, even death. Her aunt died in her mid 50's due to complications from diabetes. Don't mean to be a downer here, but some people when they get diabetes refuse to admit it, as diabetes really doesn't have a lot of symptoms at first. I feel fine! is a common refrain. If you keep it under control you can lead a pretty much normal life, just without all the sugery junk food, which really isn't good for you anyway. :wink:

I'm taking it quite seriously. Except for when I'm joking around about it. It's the reason for becoming more fitness conscious and for the changes in diet I mentioned. In the first six months after being diagnosed, I brought my A1c down to within the normal range for a NON-diabetic. I asked my doctor to halve the dosage of the one medication I'm on at that point, and he agreed. It resulted in some wild blood glucose variations for a while, but it's steady again, and another A1c run two months after cutting the dosage showed a level even lower than the previous one. I have no doubt I'll be able to get off the medication completely within a year. I'm lucky, I guess, for two reasons. First, mine is pretty pretty mild. I'm beyond the "pre-diabetic" stage, but my glucose levels aren't phenomenally high. Second, it was caught early, probably due to the huge number of tests I was undergoing at the time to find out what was wrong with me. Diabetes is just one of the things they found. Speaking of that, if your wife is diabetic and hasn't had a sleep study to check for sleep apnea, you might want to see about having that done. There's a VERY close correlation between the two. If she has sleep apnea, treatment for it may help in dealing with her diabetes. Oh, and be sure to check out Glucose Man and Meter Boy. I want a utility belt like that for my glucose meter!

While I hate taking the hook, the line, the sinker, and about half the boat I'm actually relieved. Although, honestly, the medical profession is still out on the verdict on this one. Many people on it are getting very good results. However, the Atkin's Diet isn't approved for diabetics by the ADA. If you define 'results' as 'lost weight' then yes, it can work. If you define 'results' as 'health' then it is a dismal failure. You see, I could chain you up in my basement and not feed you for two weeks and you would get results similar to that of the Atkins diet. The goal should always be health with lost weight being the result. You may be aware of that already - this is something I'm somewhat passionate about because I see so many people harming themselves.

If you define 'results' as 'lost weight' then yes, it can work. If you define 'results' as 'health' then it is a dismal failure. You see, I could chain you up in my basement and not feed you for two weeks and you would get results similar to that of the Atkins diet. The goal should always be health with lost weight being the result. Again, the verdict hasn't been rendered on that yet. Early testing shows the Atkin's diet may actually reduce the chances for heart disease and heart attack. You may be aware of that already - this is something I'm somewhat passionate about because I see so many people harming themselves. LOL! Of course I was aware of that! I remember your rant fromway back on the Crackaz boards. Why do you think I posted my comment in the first place? Wait a minute.... Did I just troll you (successfully, I might add), and do it without you even noticing?

If you define 'results' as 'lost weight' then yes, it can work. If you define 'results' as 'health' then it is a dismal failure. You see, I could chain you up in my basement and not feed you for two weeks and you would get results similar to that of the Atkins diet. The goal should always be health with lost weight being the result. Again, the verdict hasn't been rendered on that yet. Early testing shows the Atkin's diet may actually reduce the chances for heart disease and heart attack. You may be aware of that already - this is something I'm somewhat passionate about because I see so many people harming themselves. LOL! Of course I was aware of that! I remember your rant fromway back on the Crackaz boards. Why do you think I posted my comment in the first place? Wait a minute.... Did I just troll you (successfully, I might add), and do it without you even noticing? Oh stop feigning the modesty. You have a racial troll bonus of +5 against gerbils and you know it.

Oh stop feigning the modesty. You have a racial troll bonus of +5 against gerbils and you know it. Apparently I also have Stealth Trolling. :?:

Wow, this thread went from nothing to pretty heavy stuff...

...then back to nothing again fast enough to give me whiplash.

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